@misc{engels2025models,
   author = {Engels, Robert and Proper, Henderik A. and Tolido, Ron and Feng, Weiwei},
   howpublished = {Data-powered Innovation Jam podcasts, {Episode} 19, {Capgemini}},
   month = {May},
   title = {Models on the dance floor},
   url = {https://share.transistor.fm/e/fa26a13e},
   urldate = {2025-05-10},
   year = {2025},
}